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Nick Shelness

In general I agree with your analysis. I do, though, have four niggles.

1. Windows SharePoint Services 2002 are a free add on to Windows Server 2003. So, there are no additional license costs (server or CAL) involved in running them. You only need SharePoint Portal (badly named - has nothing to do w. a portal) Server 2003 if you want (need) to manage a large number of SharePoint places (lists) across a large number of users.

2. You don't need Office System 2003 in order to access SharePoint services. You can do so quite happily from a web browser.

3. While SharePoint (and other) Services 2003 employ SQL Server resources, you don't need to licence SQL Server (server or CALs) to run them. There is a restricted version of SQL Server (name escapes me) that can be installed for free with Windows Server 2003, and is perfectly adequate for supporting SharePoint (and other) Services 2003.

4. There is nothing (other than insufficient resources) that prevents you from running a range of Windows Services and Office System 2003 and application Servers (bad name) on a single instance of Windows Server 2003.

Ed Brill

Nick: "There is a restricted version of SQL Server (name escapes me) that can be installed for free with Windows Server 2003, and is perfectly adequate for supporting SharePoint (and other) Services 2003."
Yes, it's called MSDE. Microsoft's own product managers advise against using it beyond about 10-15 users (there are also technotes on TechNet to that effect). So I believe it's a bait-and-switch -- sure, you can run MSDE, but if you really want scalability, you must run SQL -- at an additional charge.
By the way, the assumption behind your first point is that the customer already owns the Windows 2003 Server upgrades and CALs -- a fair assumption for the majority, but not the entirety, of the market.

Nick Shelness

Ed" "Yes, it's called MSDE. Microsoft's own product managers advise against using it beyond about 10-15 users (there are also technotes on TechNet to that effect). So I believe it's a bait-and-switch -- sure, you can run MSDE, but if you really want scalability, you must run SQL -- at an additional charge."

There is a distinction between running MSDE as the basis of an OLTP system, and running it to support SharePoint services. My sources in Redmond indicate that it is just fine for supporting a moderately sized instance of the latter.

Ed Brill

http://www.sqlmag.com/Files/09/7840/Table_01.html
are those still current limits for MSDE? 2 GB?

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