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Michael Sampson thoughtful as ever: A vendor see a market opportunity for collaboration software. It builds a product to enable teams to work together, share information, and coordinate action. It signs up business partners who see the promise of the o... [Read More]

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Graham Chastney

Nice post. I agree with you on the way that IBM presents the product set. Users and partners are really confused these days about where to apply which of the tools. This is especially true with Websphere and Workplace, these are themselves distracting from the Notes/Domino story.

I think that perhaps the only bit you didn't bring out (and this is real nit-picking) is the "Notes wasn't the right answer in the first place" piece. We all know that different tools exist because different problems exist.

Sean Burgess

Great post. I must agree with you for the most part. In my experience, the abilities of the developers implementing the Domino environment are the ones who are responsible for the success of it. And that doesn't just mean that they have the ability to write good code. In fact, it has more to do with their ability to interact with the business users to guarantee that the application they build actually solves the problem that it is supposed to solve. The greatest code in the world still sucks if it causes more problems than it solves. It is imperative that a good Notes developer be able to steer his user's requirements in the right direction and keep them from making really big mistakes. But in the end, you have to do what the customer wants, even if it is the wrong thing to do.

Since Notes is a "self documenting" environment (try not to laugh too hard), documentation is something that almost never gets created. The best you can hope for is to have an email history or meeting minutes describing the thought process behind the development decisions that were made. I live by the rule that if you can't easily see what my code is doing then I have done something horribly wrong, but that doesn't tell the next developer WHY I chose to write the code the way I did.

@Graham - You mean that you shouldn't do everything in Notes? ;-) The "Notes is a hammer and every problem is a nail" is something that every organization has to work through.

Sean---

Tim Latta

Thank you for a very comprehensive summary, especially on Sametime. I really agree on your assessment of David Marshak's vision and traction (including all of those that don't get the visibility in making this happen). Now we wait to see how it works in implementation (and if the MS federation happens....free or fee).

Jack Dausman

Michael: very thoughtful. I brought your comments into a discussion on training and IT workers dissatisfaction.

http://www.leadershipbynumbers.com/MS.nsf/d6plinks/JDAN-6LMMYE

Charles Robinson

One of the things you fail to establish is how you're defining success or failure. The reasons you mention for Notes failing are certainly valid, but in my environment I don't consider our Notes deployment to be successful. I meet all your criteria for success, though.

Everything works fine and exactly as documented. We've done lots of training and users absolutely love the applications we have developed. They're coming to us now with new application suggestions, which shows that they really "get it" and have embraced the workflow and collaboration paradigm.

The downfall is user acceptance of the Notes UI. My users love the applications, they just think Notes is horribly ugly and difficult to navigate. In my opinion IBM has made a huge mistake overlooking the fact that people do judge an application by the way it looks. When they see Notes is it foreign and perceived to be a hostile environment. That, to me, is not a successful implementation.

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